i have two variations of this coin but none are mentioned. my 1984 appears to be different lettering than my 1987 plus the thickness has a visible difference also. anyone else heard of this or noticed on theirs
On Krause it is written that exist varieties for KM 964, but as usual for some countries it doesn't report them. This is a bad behaviour: for some countries it differentiates also minor varieties and for other major countries change in size or metal are not considered enough to assign a new code number. Enrico
it appears the number 10 is bigger and the lira much bolder and spaced (wider) along with date 1984 seems small numbered while 1987 seems larger print (maybe so) but what my scanner dont show is the differencial in width easily visible while on flat surface next to each other.if i had a scale i would weigh to verify , maybe someday ill get around to getting one.but i'd say a variation in denomination (10) visible clearly big 10 little 10 .i don't know if theres a proof version that could explain it but i have no info verifying there was ever a proof version. in my ;world coin catalogue 34th edition; it says varieties exist but dont go into detail what they are.
ehhhwwwee ,,,,, i see another very clearly variation cresent moon with star one is near rim while other is much lower thats probably the most obvious one .i knew something still just didn't look right .
great find!
we need to ask everyone to check the other dates and compare with the images here.
I added comments for 1984 and 1987
please check the length in mm for both numerals (I will add them so people can compare,
maybe one date has both varieties because they changed the design within a year)
good work. I have some other coin types varities that have not been accepted by Krause.
I'll send you soon to make same work. This work could be usefull also to verify varieties reported by Krause in a bad way ( i.e. Egypt KM 622,1 and KM622,2 reported as denomination not shaded and shaded while difference would be 622,1 reeded and 622,2 plain). Could you check this item with others collectors who get them?
Cita: enricoEgypt KM 622,1 and KM622,2 reported as denomination not shaded and shaded while difference would be 622,1 reeded and 622,2 plain. Could you check this item with others collectors who get them?
May be, I am no more young and my memory is no more as good as yours, but now I have found a staff of people, Makake 77, who give a follow-up to this type of problem - to permit to solve them with Numista catalog, and to replace Krause that is becomed mainly a commercial catalog.
enrico
About 10 lira km964 if you look at all coins of this series struck between 1984 and 1989: 1, 5, 10, 20, 50 and 100 lira with km 962 to 967, all have the same varieties but Krause report them only for 1 lira: large number KM962,1 and small number KM962,2. So i think we can apply suddivision ,1 and ,2 also for all coins of whole series after Makake will have checked single years as done for KM964. At the end Numista could suggest Krause editor to add them to new edition of World Coin catalog.
Enrico
I have checked emissions of Turkey 1984-1989 period and sets prepared by mint:
Serie of 1984 is made by KM 962 to 967: 1,5,10,20, 50 and 100 lira, the year later 25 lira KM 975 replace 20 lira KM965 (it is interesting to check if anybody get1989, Krause report also this year for KM965 but may be an error).
I have all this coins with exception of KM962,1 and ,2 but I can compare only KM966 50 lira, because I get two 1984 and two 1986 and them are different: larger number for 1984 and a bit smaller for 1986, also wide spacing to rim for 1984.
Enrico
They are not variants, just sub-types not recognized as such by KM. It's of no interest since none of those coins have both sub-types in the same year…..
