identifying this 16-17th ce Spanish mint

Found on the beach in fl
So i have been able to narrow down the search significantly to a Mexico mint pre-Philip V. However, I've looked everywhere and can find nothing regarding an S assayer's mark. The mint mark is unreadable, it is clearly a cob shield and the two letters --GR--- can clearly be seen in the obverse legend, unique to Mexican mints it seems. There a just a couple things that are making it impossible for me to identify: the cross looks more like a Greek cross than a Florenzada, which would make it a potosi or lima mint. Yet NEITHER as far as I can tell used the full spelling of GRATIA in the legend... But it has all the proper location of elements of a Mexican mint, down to the words in the legend. Proper shield. Proper embellishments on the tails of the Rs...
help me

Welcome to Numista!

My two cents are that it's a clear and outright fake, but let's see what other people have to say.

Do people make silver fakes?

Cita: "Dirland"​Do people make fakes of silver?

​People do indeed make fakes, both of silver and in silver, yes.

Hi,
sorry but it is a FAKE without hesitation

Thanks guys! I'll take it down to the coin collector down the road to verify, but what qualities about it makes you think it's fake?

Cita: "Dirland"​Do people make silver fakes?

​Yes, indeed.
But it does not mean it is fake.
It looks like a replica pirate coin, perhaps used in a game
like this:
https://www.ebay.com/itm/70-Doubloons-for-Puerto-Rico-Board-Game-Treasure-Coins-Pirate-Coins-Viking-Coins-/122845236369

CassTaylorWelcome to Numista!

My two cents are that it's a clear and outright fake, but let's see what other people have to say.

CassTaylorWelcome to Numista!

My two cents are that it's a clear and outright fake, but let's see what other people have to say.

Hola la ceca es la S de Sevilla, lo que debes de mirar es peso? No creo que sea de Felipe II, más bien, por el escudo, puede ser de Carlos I 

Si quieres me escribes e intento ayudarte, pero no todo son falsificaciones, dudo que lean historia

I have the same coin.  I found it several years ago snorkeling can you tell me anything about this? We are not sure if it’s real or not. It was very deep down in a cave with sea  Anemones and sea urchins.

Susiefoster143

I have the same coin.  I found it several years ago snorkeling can you tell me anything about this? We are not sure if it’s real or not. It was very deep down in a cave with sea  Anemones and sea urchins.

Welcome to Numista.

Please start a new thread with clear photos of your example and provide some information about it. Weight, diameter, and composition if possible. This is the best way to get assistance from the members of Numista.

Susiefoster143

I have the same coin.  I found it several years ago snorkeling can you tell me anything about this? We are not sure if it’s real or not. It was very deep down in a cave with sea  Anemones and sea urchins.

Not authentic.

How sad to learn the sea creatures need to resort to counterfeiting. 🙂