Im new to this forum and in fact Im not a dedicated coincollector, on the other hand Ive collected Close to Everything during my Life and yes,, coins are intresting!
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Reason for asking about this coin is that I cant find all the info about it on google search, I guess some of you are well updated.
I noticed that it changed in minor details on coins I found from 1638 and 1640 compared to mine from 1635.
A couple of Q's from me,,
1. Are 1635 considered to be more "rare" compared to other years 1636/7/8 and so on, or are they all "rare"?
2. when I flip the coin I notice that the front and rear pictures are rotated 180degrees, is this "common"?
3. Any suggest in value?
4. anyone who known how much the value of a coin like this was back in 1635,, was it a coin used by common people or was it "Worth" a lot already by that time?
With hope for some answers and best Regards Olle B Sweden
Thanks for reply's.
Yes its thrilling,, The story (true) is as this:
The coin belongs to an old retired woman who also act as our dogkeeper.
Her dad was a coincollector and passed away already 1972.
By that time she let a coindealershop buy everything and was paid what I Heard 30.000:- Swedish Krona,, no coin was considered "fake".
This coin was found in the "leftover" and she kept it since then.
Ive done the magnetic test and theres NO magnetism in the coin.
I also done the ice test, and the ice melted superfast.
Im 100% sure that the coin is genuine and no fake, but I understand that I /You need more proof,,
The coin is not 100% circular even if it doesent diff more than 0.8mm in size.
The largest wide is 44.8mm .
The weight on a good household weight is approx 30g but I will go to a store dealing with secondhand gold tomorrow and get the weight with 2 decimals,,
For my initial Q's,,
1.?
2.?
Shall I Clean it?
What is VG8, VF20, XF40?
Can you tell from the Pictures in my initial post what of the above lassification this coin belongs to??
She wants to sell it, how do I help here with that?
About the orientation of the coin, they where struck with all kinds of orientation so any is possible and not rare.
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From time to time I sell some coins on Ebay make sure to follow me @apuking on Ebay.
Cita: "apuking"The link you provided is of the 2 Taler coin not 1 Taler.
seems a low VF to me, usually traded at around 175-250€ in that condition. I have 5 of those in better condition.
I wouldn't clean it but seems it was cleaned already. (Can be distinguished by the darker details between the lettering.
https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces32828.html
About the orientation of the coin, they where struck with all kinds of orientation so any is possible and not rare.
This mostly covers it.
Only thing I'd add is the possible traces of mounting, which may lower the value by 25 euros or so.
It is a coin from the horrible thirty years war, the salary a a Landsknecht soldier was of around 3 Talers a month.
so just a very rough comparison that is I guess not really close to reality, but just assuming that a persons salary is 3.000€ a month in this comparison in todays money it would be 1.000€ so quite a hefty sum of money that you would not normally spend everyday.
If you like coins, medals and tokens with ship motives follow my new instagram account with regular updates @numisnautiker
From time to time I sell some coins on Ebay make sure to follow me @apuking on Ebay.
I could not find an exact comparison, as apuking did, but it clearly was not a coin that the common person would use in normal commerce. These large coins were used to buy arms and to hire soldiers. Prices during the turmoil of the Thirty Years War would probably have been much higher than normal.
I have read that, during the Middle Ages, a silver pfennig was two days' pay, unless it was harvest season, when it was only 1/2 day's pay.
During the American Revolution, a soldier's pay was reportedly about $18 per month, and there is a German thaler (called a Blood Thaler), that was reportedly the "sign up bonus" for Hessians hired to fight in the war.
For a commoner in the 1630s, your thaler could have been more than a month's wages.
