India silver coins identification help needed.

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I volunteer at our local community thrift shop in the collectibles department.  We recently received a donation of a large group of coins from India.  There is a large quantity and they all appear to be older ones.  I have sorted out some of the silver ones to begin with. I need to get some identification help as to exactly what they are and am hoping that the folks on this forum can help. Here are the first 5, I am sure that I do not have any of them right side up but any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks 

 

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Welcome to numista!

 

A simple rule for correct orientation of coins with Arabic writing is to put the rounded bottoms of the letters down. 

I wish I could walk into my local charity shops and find something like this!
A mixture of   real and  copies of Mughal emperor Akbar's rupees, number 4 looks genuine and has Ahmadabad mint visible, number 5 is classed as a temple token, number 3 might be genuine, it has the mint visible as urdu zaffar qarin but l have copies like this one however.

  Fakes and copies are rarely solid silver and rarely correct weight. Number 2 looks typical temple token type in base metal and would once have been silver plated.

 Looking closer at number one it is not Akbar but Shah Jahan  but needs the weight to get an idea if it is genuine so has to be 11.3 g minimum for all genuine ones  . Nearly all replicas appeared long after the depicted emperor was dead, many from 19th century and later, many Mughal fakes are being made in Pakistan right now

Vic

Vic65

I wish I could walk into my local charity shops and find something like this!
A mixture of   real and  copies of Mughal emperor Akbar's rupees, number 4 looks genuine and has Ahmadabad mint visible, number 5 is classed as a temple token, number 3 might be genuine, it has the mint visible as urdu zaffar qarin but l have copies like this one however.

  Fakes and copies are rarely solid silver and rarely correct weight. Number 2 looks typical temple token type in base metal and would once have been silver plated.

 Looking closer at number one it is not Akbar but Shah Jahan  but needs the weight to get an idea if it is genuine so has to be 11.3 g minimum for all genuine ones  . Nearly all replicas appeared long after the depicted emperor was dead, many from 19th century and later, many Mughal fakes are being made in Pakistan right now

 

Got out my more accurate gm scale and weights are as follows:

#1  11.0

#2  11.8

#3  10.6

#4  11.0

#5  10.2

So it appears that all but #2 (you indicated it was probably in base metal even though its the only one of the correct weight ) are fake and have no value, is that correct?

 

I also have 9 round “silver” coins of various sizes so they are all going to have different weights.

 

I can see this is going to be a long and tough process.  I may have our jewelry department test them for silver….

 

Thanks

I said yours were a mixture of real and copies rather than fakes, contemporary copies are very collectible but modern  fakes are not. A handful of hand struck lndian coins of the same type will vary slightly in weight due to the crude method of cutting the blanks and weighing etc.

Copies usually have a silver washed copper core or a mixture called billon which contains some silver mixed with other metals. Testing will give the answer for sure

 

So what you have there is an interesting mix which are of interest to collectors. I have atray of similar types myself

Your round coins you mention are less likely to be tokens so post them when you can as you might have something good.

Vic

Ok, thanks, I will have the square ones checked out for silver.  Will post photos of the round ones as soon as I can.  

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