Zeno Category means CATEGORY and not a single coin

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Hello friends,

 

It seems that some of the esteemed referees are not familiar, or may not fully understood, neither verifying the references from Zeno in the submited coins to the catalog.

 

“Zeno Cat” means that after verification, clicking the link on the coin's page should direct the user to the corresponding category on the magnificent Zeno website.

 

But looks like many users are adding the reference number of a single coin instead of the category number, which is not how the system is intended to function.

 

Example of a single coin

https://www.zeno.ru/showphoto.php?photo=344752   (The number 344752 represents the reference of an individual coin)

 

Example of a CATEGORY (what Numista needs)

https://www.zeno.ru/showgallery.php?cat=2302  (The number 2302 is the category of the types of that coin)

 

My suggestion: 

Provide clearer guidance and training for referees.

 

Of course someone will argue that these issues we can correct, since it is a collaborative catalog. But it would be far more effective to just explain clearly to the referee.

 

Examples of broken references:

N#554309
N#354278
N#161601
N#61857
N#554520
N#87524
N#554885

 

and many many more…

 

Geison

Personally I never understood how Zeno can be used as a reference catalog that is compatible with Numista. It's just a bunch of individual coins (as good as a resource of knowledge it might be).

The category thing you list as better then the individual specimen links is just a geolocation (Constantine in Algeria) and not bound to a singular coin type (sometimes it seems to be but 3 out of 4 random pages I've looked at had multiple, sometimes widely different objects in them).

 

IMO use Zeno to add specimens but I don't see a way to use it as a catalog.

Zeno is better than a catalog because can show multiple types of simmilar coins.

 

Anyway, my point is, the Numista reference is wrong in most of the coins

if you click the link provided on most of the coins you will get an error because the referee didn't check if was a category or a single coin. And of course, there is no reference accepted for single coins on Numista.

 

Again, examples:

 

If you click the reference on this coin, you will get the correct page, very very helpful:

N#410013

 

If you click the reference on this coin, you will get an error, because was a zeno single coin reference provided (wrong):

N#439407

 

Other fix could be Numista accepting Zeno Category AND Zeno individual Coin, so at least people will see there are two ways to add a reference

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