Request to Add Separate Types for the 1 Soldo of Gorizia (1768–1769) [resuelto]

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Hello everyone,


while studying the 1 soldo coins of Gorizia dated 1768 and 1769 ( N#22812 ), I noticed that Numista currently lists only one type for each year. 
However, these coins actually exist in two clearly distinct types, not simple die variations:


Type 1: without flower below the shield

Type 2: with flower below the shield, and with a different shield design


These differences are not minor details but derive from different punches and different die engraving, which numismatic literature treats as separate types, not variants.


NO FLOWER
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FLOWER

 

FLOWER ON SHIELD



Authoritative catalogues confirming they are different types

Two of the most important specialist references for Habsburg coinage classify them as distinct coins, each with its own catalogue number:


Carl Domanig – Die Münzen des Hauses Habsburg

1768 without flower

1768 with flower

1769 without flower

1769 with flower
 

Probszt – Die Münzen der Habsburger

1768 without flower

1768 with flower

1769 without flower

1769 with flower

 

Request
 

Since both Domanig and Probszt treat these as different types, and since the iconographic differences are substantial (different shield + presence/absence of flower), I kindly ask:
 

either to create separate Numista entries for each type or

to allow separate instances within the same year (1768 and 1769), distinguishing clearly between “with flower” and “without flower”.
 

This would improve accuracy and help collectors correctly identify their coins.


Thank you in advance for your attention and for the great work you do on Numista.

Hello,

 

feel free to add new page, as both variants have both years, there is nothing for me to do in terms of moving the collections.

Catalogue administrator
Estado cambiado a hecho (Jarcek, 6 feb 2026, 13:19)

Jarcek

Hello,

 

feel free to add new page, as both variants have both years, there is nothing for me to do in terms of moving the collections.

Thank you. In the end, to avoid changing the page too much, I modified the entry, adding explanatory photos and, in this case, treating the types themselves as variants. I hope this works well; otherwise feel free to ask me how to adjust it. Thanks again.

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