Half Dollar 1972 with bent side planchet

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Another find in my collection - a 1972 half dollar with bent side planchet.  I've come across conflicting information regarding how the error might impact the value of this coin.  

 

Could anyone offer suggestions or advice?  I would love to send my collection to PCGS but not able to do so at this time.

 

Thank you in advance,

Krista

Krista D Mills

We call this “post mint damage,” meaning the coin was scratched / bent / stamped / chewed after it left the mint.

 

For example, this coin might have been used as a piece of jewelry, the rim damage might have been where the coin was forced into a bezel.

 

These coins are worth “face value”.

 

In other words, this half dollar is worth exactly 50 cents, and the Ike dollar you also posted is worth exactly one dollar.

 

These are not coins worth submitting for grading. Please spend them, or leave them as tips at your favorite restaurant, church, etc.

 

Then a year or two from now the next owner will wonder what they are, and when they search the Internet they'll find your posts :)

This one is Post mint damage but not your Eisenhower Dollar which has an unusual free mason stamp. I I could easily see this piece going for $20-30 as freemason stamps on later U.S. coinages are scarce. It has nothing to do that its clad coinage.

John P Lorenzo

colonialjohn

…your Eisenhower Dollar … has an unusual free mason stamp. I I could easily see this piece going for $20-30 as freemason stamps on later U.S. coinages are scarce. It has nothing to do that its clad coinage.

 

I didnt find any recent sales on ebay to merit that assessment. Not saying you're wrong, just no evidence so it's really a guess. The trouble with counterstamps like this is the lack of provenance. Anyone with a punch could make a thousand of these in a weekend. And another thousand next weekend. They're interesting but not unique or valuable.

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=Free+Mason+coin&_sacat=0&_from=R40&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

John P Lorenzo

colonialjohn

This one is Post mint damage but not your Eisenhower Dollar which has an unusual free mason stamp. 

Of course the Eisenhower Dollar is post mint damage and a pretty lousy job at that considering the stamp damaged the reverse side too.  Do you have a different definition of post mint damage?

The question here really is when do we use the acronym PMD which is primarily “reserved” for U.S. Mint and World Error coinages - IMO. Not really applicable for counterstamps and countermarks even on this low end near worthless $1 U.S. specimen . Remember the question here is  = Does this guy spend this coin as face value as its PMD damaged? or does it have some “small” premium as a free mason counterstamp regardless of the time period of stamping. Being here now for a week there are a lot of the people here that submit coins for authentication or ID verification rarely supplying any metrology or edge shots (third side) in the fake/replica categories. Furthermore - I find the catalog picture update/verification feature TOOL quite impressive and IMO this sites best TOOL. You would think all these beginners? for lack of a better term would go there first? JPL    

John P Lorenzo

colonialjohn

 Remember the question here is  = Does this guy spend this coin as face value as its PMD damaged? or does it have some “small” premium as a free mason counterstamp regardless of the time period of stamping.

If you recall from my post on the stamped Eisenhower dollar I said exactly the same thing, essentially not a high value coin but might be of interest to a Mason and you agreed with me.

 

In the Numista community a coin like this is considered a post mint damaged coin.

OK. 

John P Lorenzo

colonialjohn

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_nkw=Free+Mason+coin&_sacat=0&_from=R40&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

 

Yes, I see 2 recent sales of Wheats with Masonic stamps but…

 

Wheats with Masonic stamps are a known collectible, the ANA even has a lengthy youtube presentation:

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qt3BicktePE

 

Not sure the premium attaches to an Ike with a stamp, but you maybe right.

 

Worth listing the coin and seeing what happens.

 

PS: I never watched the whole video, let me know if they mention Ikes.

OK.

John P Lorenzo

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