Split one Barhrain note or merge several? [resuelto]

This banknote from Bahrain seems to be a merger between the narrow (P#13, 14, 15 and 16) and wide (P#19, 20, 21 and 22) security strip

So my question is for consistency, should the note below be split between the narrow and wide security strip?

Its siblings are devided between narrow and wide strip.

N#204516

Hello!

Would it be worth separating the records of P#13 and P#19, which are currently in a single registry?

That's what I will advocate for :D

Seems more easy than merge all the other notes in the two security strip-type, at least, hehe.

Hello! I reviewed the records and I confess that I couldn't be sure what would be best. 

What Numista recommends in these cases is to try to merge the records; but I comment on other forums, other things must be taken into account. In the specific case of these emissions from Bahrain, the difference would actually be between the width of the safety band; and in those with a wider band, there are variations in whether or not they have a certain inscription.

I improved the registration of P#13,19 to see what the unified registrations would be like. I would like to know more opinions regarding these emissions.

Regards,

Vladimir.

I see it as a minor difference, especially as there are often several slight changes in security strips within a type.

I vote against the split proposed in the OP.

BramVB

I see it as a minor difference, especially as there are often several slight changes in security strips within a type.

 

I vote against the split proposed in the OP.

I tend to agree with you, Bram. The question now would be: merge the other records or leave it as is? =)

There's another thing to consider:

P#13 has a semi-segmented strip: if you look at the backlight image in the catalogue, that is a P#13 and the strip is partly segmented under backlight.

P#19b is a note  I just purchased and that has a wide strip which is solid but is windowed into six pieces on the obverse.

I'm assuming P#19a is the same, just with an inscription on the strip.

I don't have one of those to check and I can't find backlit images of it online.

But it seems to me the Numista descriptions have to change anyway: they are wrong at the moment because they all say narrow.

It should be like this, assuming P#19a and P#19b are both solid strips:

P#13: Narrow partly segmented security strip windowed into six pieces on the obverse

P#19a: Wide solid security strip, windowed into six pieces on the obverse, with inscription on the strip

P#19b: Wide solid security strip, windowed into six pieces on the obverse, without inscription on the strip

Here is my P#19b under backlight for reference:

In fact, I also couldn't find images of P#19a. The difference in the width of the safety strip is quite clear, so I added the observations there in the registry.

I think we can continue to maintain the registry as it is and think about combining examples similar to this one (described at the beginning of the topic).

Wait a few days for possible defenses in one way or another. =)

Regards,

Vladimir.

It might be worth having a discussion about what a segmented vs windowed strip is.

From my understanding, a segmented strip has to be physically segmented, like the P#13 here. It remains segmented even under backlight because it is not a solid line:

This P#19b is windowed into six pieces, so it looks segmented but it isn't. Because when you backlight it, it can be seen to be solid:

I describe it as a solid strip, windowed into six pieces.

Hello!

I have combined the other records similar to this case, to try to find a pattern: P13/P19; P14/P20; P15/P21; P16/P22

Any adjustments that are necessary, you can request directly on the pages or in the comments here.

Thanks!

Hi All

I had a close look at @Kiet Tran's image of the note under backlight and saw what looks like a sliver of security strip going down one side where there is a gap. So I am now wondering if this is a damaged note.

I ordered an UNC P#13 to check this. When I get it I will report back.

Update: the Kiet Tran P#13 note that is currently on the catalogue page is indeed damaged. 

I proved it because I have received an AU note in much better condition. P#13 does not have a segmented strip, or partially segmented, it is a solid security strip that is windowed on the obverse.

I will post a modification request later.

For now, here is my P#13 note: