Shillings, rare or run of the mill. [resuelto]

Hi everyone, please see attached pics.

I would welcome comments.

The Victorian weighs 5.51g

Georgian 5.31g, both test as being the same metal as others of those eras and are identical size. They also seem to pass the fingertip “ring test ”

In your estimation is the 1848 an overstamped 1846.

Was an 1848 even minted?

Is the Georgian an 1823, an 1825 or an overstamped 1823/5. 

What is the style of 1 in its date.

Any ideas about the “R” in “REX”

I bought these as part of a lot on an internet selling site and paid the going rate based purely on the silver value. 

Obviously it would be great if these two were quite valuable but I find the real joy in collecting is more about the history of the coins. Just think about their journey and who has touched them.

I also have a number of hammered coins of Edward and Elizabeth. Truly fascinating.

Many thanks in advance.

Welcome to numista.

Did you read the forum policy before posting?

Did you find your coins in numista? Please give us the links.

Can you make macro images of the 1823 and 1848 coins? It would be easier to answer your questions, then.

You have to help us to help you.

Hi  Sjoelund, thank you for the welcome and your quick reply, apologies for my delay. 

I did read the forum policy yesterday. Did i do something wrong?

I have tried to add better pics below and added the N#. There appears to be no pictures of these two specific dated coins on Numista ( i may be mistaken though )

Upon further inspection the George iv looks to be dated 1823 but with a third reverse which only began in 1825? If the date is 1825, my question is , is the 1 in the date Roman. 

The relevant N# for them is 12811 and 13183.

I believe the Victorian Shilling N#7248  to be an overdate 1846/8 but, again, would value your or any other member's  judgment.

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Again, many thanks,

James

1 shilling 1823 : N#13183 doesn't look like yours at all!

1 shilling 1848: N#7248 looks like yours.

Those are the links you should have given.

The 1848 is given by Numista like this:

The KM catalog (SCWC) is more accurate:

Your 1848, might be the overdate variant, and in my opinion it is, but let's hear what others have to say.

On Ebay: https://www.google.com/search?q=1+shilling+1848+overdate&sca_esv=573218915&sxsrf=AM9HkKmXHfpoRtYcoloM5MbnreHT5IfwuQ%3A1697212086776&source=hp&ei=tmYpZY6lLayrkdUP_ZyEyAM&iflsig=AO6bgOgAAAAAZSl0xkPiqDXHdOk3qZYjCXemRv8ZMoCH&ved=0ahUKEwiO2Kfcr_OBAxWsVaQEHX0OATkQ4dUDCAk&uact=5&oq=1+shilling+1848+overdate&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IhgxIHNoaWxsaW5nIDE4NDggb3ZlcmRhdGUyBRAhGKABSIVaUABYoD1wAHgAkAEAmAGCAaABpA6qAQQyMi4yuAEDyAEA-AEBwgIIEAAYigUYkQLCAgUQABiABMICBRAuGIAEwgINEAAYigUYkQIYRhiCAsICCxAuGIAEGMcBGK8BwgIIEAAYFhgeGA_CAgYQABgWGB7CAggQABiKBRiGA8ICBxAhGKABGArCAgQQIRgV&sclient=gws-wiz

strange link, but so it is!

Here another: https://www.google.com/search?q=1+shilling+1848+overdate&sca_esv=573218915&sxsrf=AM9HkKnOwRXV8QHH-nPzfaagQOZvMj2sMw%3A1697212196421&source=hp&ei=JGcpZaGCF4SdkdUPieObyAE&iflsig=AO6bgOgAAAAAZSl1NNmL6gaE45TcINl6Rh8GxDkM2JBI&ved=0ahUKEwihpMuQsPOBAxWETqQEHYnxBhkQ4dUDCAk&uact=5&oq=1+shilling+1848+overdate&gs_lp=Egdnd3Mtd2l6IhgxIHNoaWxsaW5nIDE4NDggb3ZlcmRhdGUyBBAjGCdIkUtQAFiVQ3AAeACQAQCYAYkBoAH5DKoBBDIzLjG4AQPIAQD4AQHCAgcQABiKBRhDwgIIEAAYigUYkQLCAgUQABiABMICBRAuGIAEwgIKEAAYgAQYFBiHAsICCxAuGIAEGMcBGK8BwgIIEAAYFhgeGA_CAgYQABgWGB7CAggQABiKBRiGAw&sclient=gws-wiz#ip=1

All this you can do yourself, it's only a matter of trying, yes?

Sjoelund

 

Your 1848, might be the overdate variant, and in my opinion it is, but let's hear what others have to say.

SCWC says all 1848's are overdates (no regular 1848 dates).

Brilliant guys, thank you so much. 

Sjoelund, I will know what to do next time. 

James

Shillings dated 1825 come in 2 types, your coin looks like the second type, the 5 deceptively looks like a 3:
N#12811

To compare: https://www.ebay.nl/itm/265975810411