1935 Southern Rhodesia penny..

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Hello all,

Can anyone tell me why the 1935 penny  https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces11979.html is considered scarcer than the 1934? According to sources the mintage figure for 1935 is greater than the 1934.
Maybe a heap of them had been destroyed?
Thank you in advance. :.

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As a youngster, I like to find NZ pre-decimal and foreign coins that had made It's way into circulated coinage.

The thought of holding a object of the past with it's hidden history really intrigued me as a youngster...and still does.
That could be possible.

I can see that there are fewer members owning 1935 instead of 1934 of that coin. Mintages don't really tell how rare a coin can be; a good example is Hong Kong George VI 1 cent coins.
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It could be artificially scarce, many collectors buying and hoarding them to drive the prices up !
Well there's two valid answers. I have picked up a nice lot of coins today and the 1935 was one of them. Pity it wasn't a high grade but it'll suffice.  

SmartOne, I see what you mean. For a 5 mil mintage that's a hefty price in any grade. Is there a story behind it?

Mark240590, I know what you mean regarding hoarding them. Over here in NZ we have an auction site similar to eBay. There is a collector that I've notice that has been buying up one of NZ scarce coins (1935 threepence) for 4 years... that I've been aware of anyway. Every time an auction comes up for one, you could almost guarantee he'd be in the bidding. I know he has won a lot of them regardless of grade. Personally I think it's way overpriced because there always seems to be at least 3 or more a week, and at one stage someone was selling twenty of them in bulk. Talk about flooding the market.

Anyone else that can maybe shed some light would be great. Thank you both for your input. :)
As a youngster, I like to find NZ pre-decimal and foreign coins that had made It's way into circulated coinage.

The thought of holding a object of the past with it's hidden history really intrigued me as a youngster...and still does.
I have read about people who collect along this line before - just collecting one year of a coin in order to inflate the price and then they can dump a lot on the market and make a killing. I struggle to see how that is legal in most countries; if the same was done with shares it would be seen as market manipulation, which is illegal and taken very seriously.
Cita: Walder CoinsI have read about people who collect along this line before just collecting one year of a coin in order to inflate the price and then they can dump a lot on the market and make a killing. I struggle to see how that legal in most countries if the same was done with shares it would be seen as market manipulation which is illegal and taken very seriously.
It's been tried by many people, from small scale collectors and dealers to the massive manipulation of the world silver market by the Hunt brothers back in the 70's. It never works because of simple market dynamics. If you choose a coin with a mintage of say 10,000 from the inter-war period and assume that 5,000 have survived it might seem a simple idea to buy up all 5,000 then wait for the price to go up. However, in any given year maybe only 5% of the examples will come onto the market so it would take you 20 years to buy them all. Even worse, after ten years, the very fact that you have bought every single item that came up for sale, pretty much means that no other collector has been able to buy one, and they will start to bid more aggressively. The coins you were buying for $100 are now costing you $500.

At this point the would-be speculator realises that the next ten years are going to be even more expensive, and dumps his entire hoard of 2,500 coins onto the market, expecting to get $500 each - which he will do for about an hour until the market reacts and the price drops to $1.

It's much easier to do this with shares and commodity futures, pumping and dumping. It's how the big banks and hedge funds make such obscene profits and pay such outrageous bonuses to their executives. Of course when someone makes a dollar, someone else loses one, and that is always the small investor or the taxpayer.
Non illegitimis carborundum est.  Excellent advice for all coins.
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It's the same as anything unfortunately, if people can take the pee, they will ! :(

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