Ukraine 50 kopiyok 2006

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https://en.numista.com/catalogue/pieces11198.html

The reference page says that there are 2 varieties of groove on the 2007 coins.

I have found some varieties on coins from 2006, but as with all these variants the differences are so small, which makes it difficult to see.

So I would like some second opinions. The middle one definitely looks like it has fewer grooves?



The obs and revs of the coins:




I have looked at the catalog at http://www.coinsitk.com/download/books/itk8.pdf but as I can't read it it is not very helpful, the only picture of edges is on page 172 but that is not for this coin.
Hello!

I will be able to help you since I know this area quite well.

You have these types of coins classified by the ITK catalog.

The left one & the right one in the picture are 1ГБм.
The one in the middle will be 1ГБв.
Both variants are common, in ITK catalog the price is "номинал" (meaning face value).
You can see the varieties of 2006 on Page 114 in ITK.

The difference of edges can be seen on page 4 of the catalog, I cropped a picture from there. Basically the grooves in "м" (means small), the grooves are in the same level with the edge, but in "в" (means convex or so), the grooves are above the level of the edge. The picture at Numista you talked about also describes it. These types of edges are known and common not only in 2007 as stated at Numista but also in 2006.


I hope that helps. There are a lot of varieties in Ukrainian coins, there are a lot of people, especially in Ukraine, who collect and hunt them.

Numista's catalog about Ukrainian coins does not have all the details about the coins' varieties. Sometimes it specifies extremely rare trial strikes, but sometimes it does not differentiate very different common or uncommon varieties. There is a lot of work to be done, but I don't know how to proceed with it. As a regular user, not a referee, I am not able to do much. Numista's catalog should not note all the varieties as the ITK catalog provides, because it will be too much. But some lines should be added or deleted.

I raised some questions here, but I don't know if it ever is done.
https://en.numista.com/forum/topic109139.html
Thanks.

Obviously I cannot ask you to translate the whole book here, but perhaps you could explain the other edge types described on page 4 - you have described the m and v types but there are also g, k, s, d).

And for the year 2006, can you explain the differences between the coins 1GAm, 2GAm and my coins (1GBm/1GBv)?

Lastly are the values in the right-hand column in UAH?
Cita: "colondee"​Thanks.

​Obviously I cannot ask you to translate the whole book here, but perhaps you could explain the other edge types described on page 4 - you have described the m and v types but there are also g, k, s, d).

​And for the year 2006, can you explain the differences between the coins 1GAm, 2GAm and my coins (1GBm/1GBv)?

​Lastly are the values in the right-hand column in UAH?
​Sure!

1. Different types of edges:
г (g) (meaning smooth) - is just a smooth edge.
к (k) (meaning large) - is the one with 7 grooves (the middle one on the picture below)
c (s) (meaning middle) - is the one with 8 grooves (the right one on the picture below)
д (d) (meaning different type) - extremely rare, described in the catalog separately.


2. Each type has a picture in the catalog and its description. For example, the difference between ГА & ГБ in your case is shown here. Basically, the wreath is slightly smaller. Look at the difference in space between the edge of the rim and the edge of the wreath.


About obverse 1 vs. 2. The image in type 1 is slightly bigger than in type 2. A picture from the catalog is shown below.


How the catalog works:
The obverse is shown in numerals. The first digit represents a major variant, the second digit after "." represents a minor variant, e.g. 1.3.
The reverse is shown in Capital letters. The first letter represents a major variant, the second letter represents a minor variant, e.g. ГА.
The lower case letters represent edge types, or if it is 1 hryvnia coin, it uses single numerals, e.g. 1АД3.

Also, the 3rd column usually has a number that shows Index Rarity. Below is a description of the index rarity. If the index rarity is 1, it means that there should be at least 1 out of 1 000; if 5 then 1 out of 8000-15000; 7 - if 1 out of more than 30 000, or trial., etc.
It was created in 2000, so based on coins from 1992-1996 since they have the most variations. It means that these numbers should be higher now since a lot of coins were minted since 2000.


The catalog can be very complicated to study, even if you know the language, especially when looking at minor variants. The major variants are more or less clear and are quite different. Sometimes you need special rulers that people came up with to measure differences that are in decimals of millimeters. So, some people just pay attention to major variants, but give up on minor and saving their eyesight and nerves:) But there are thousands of collectors in Ukraine who do that. It can be fun and accessible to everyone, and if you are lucky you can find in your change something that is 50-100 its face value, occasionally people find some real rarities that cost several hundred dollars, but those are extremely rare.


3. The values in the right-hand column are in USD. The last edition of the catalog is from 2014, the one you are looking at. So, the prices can be different today, more or less, depending on the variant. But it gives you a good idea of the range. No one knows if there will be future editions from the same author, or if someone maybe tries to continue his work. Because it is a difficult task to do.

I hope that helps!

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