Create ruling authority/currency for the 13 American Colonies and Continental Congess [resuelto]

Hi. First of all, I wasn't sure how to classify this post, so I labeled it as "requesting the creation or the modification of a ruling authority", but I think it also applies to "requesting the creation or the modification of a currency in the catalog". I have recently gained interest in Colonial and Continental notes from the American Colonies, although nothing from this period appears to be on Numista. I was looking into adding a few to the catalog myself, but two problems arose. Firstly, I have done some research into this subject, but I couldn't find a reference catalog to use (an example of which would be KM, or the Standard Catalog of World Coins). The second problem is that the only sub-categories in the Numista catalog for U.S. banknotes are for the Repub. of Texas, the CSA, and the USA. I would think that it would be helpful to add a sub-section for each of the 13 colonies, as well as one for the Continental Congress. Below is a picture of a small concept I made with inspect element. If I'm looking in the wrong place on Numista for these notes, let me know (although that would bring up a separate problem; colonial notes should be under the US in the catalog). Also, please let me know if anyone has any insight on how to add these notes to the Numista catalog. Thanks!

There is a 4 Dollars dated 1775 listed - which is also in my collection.

It is this note;





I classify this as being from British America, as the note is inscribed 'THE UNITED COLONIES', which means it was issued prior to the American Declaration of Independence on 4 July 1776.

The Dollar expressed is in terms of the Spanish Milled Dollar.

Aidan.

Cita: "BCNumismatics"​There is a 4 Dollars dated 1775 listed - which is also in my collection.
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​I classify this as being from British America, as the note is inscribed 'THE UNITED COLONIES', which means it was issued prior to the American Declaration of Independence on 4 July 1776.
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​The Dollar expressed is in terms of the Spanish Milled Dollar.
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​Aidan.

​That's the kind of currency I was thinking of, yours is really interesting so I'm jealous lol. I can't find that on the Numista catalog, do you know where it is?

Also, I would personally categorize that as US currency as opposed to British American currency, as this was commissioned by the Continental Congress which would later become the governing body of the colonies during the revolution (the fact that it says "The United Colonies" makes me think the colonies are already starting to identify as a united body separate from Britain). True, the war hadn't started yet and America didn't officially declare independence, but that doesn't mean Britain has a claim to that currency.

Edit: I just found the 4 dollar Continental note on Numista under pre-federal US currency. However, I still see a few problems with this.

1. it doesn't show up under the general US catalog; it only shows up when you press "pre-federal" on the browse Banknotes page (unlike notes from the Republic of Texas, which show
up in the general US catalog as well as its own catalog)
2. there is a relatively limited description without a reference catalog cited (or maybe I just didn't see it on mobile idk)
3. The only pre-federal notes listed are the 1775 4 dollar note and a 1/6 of a dollar note.
4. It's listed as "United States › United States - Pre-Federal • Unspecified currency" - I think "unspecified currency" should be replaced with "Continental Dollar".

I could probably try to enter other pre-federal notes on my own time, I just think the website should modify the description of the issuing authority to make it clearer, as well as have it show up on the General US banknote page. If I missed anything or was incorrect on any of the things I listed here, let me know.

Look here;

https://en.numista.com/catalogue/united-states-pre-federal-banknotes-1.html .

Aidan.

Cita: "ChrisK197"​Edit: I just found the 4 dollar Continental note on Numista under pre-federal US currency. However, I still see a few problems with this.
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​1. it doesn't show up under the general US catalog; it only shows up when you press "pre-federal" on the browse Banknotes page (unlike notes from the Republic of Texas, which show
​up in the general US catalog as well as its own catalog)
​2. there is a relatively limited description without a reference catalog cited (or maybe I just didn't see it on mobile idk)
​3. The only pre-federal notes listed are the 1775 4 dollar note and a 1/6 of a dollar note.
​4. It's listed as "United States › United States - Pre-Federal • Unspecified currency" - I think "unspecified currency" should be replaced with "Continental Dollar".
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​I could probably try to enter other pre-federal notes on my own time, I just think the website should modify the description of the issuing authority to make it clearer, as well as have it show up on the General US banknote page. If I missed anything or was incorrect on any of the things I listed here, let me know.
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British America should be added to the listings as well - as these were issued when America was still under British rule, even though the American Revolution was well underway.

Aidan.

Edit 2: Thanks Aiden. Also, I didn't see any Colonial currency listed. I feel that that too should be added as US pre-federal currency (each of the 13 colonies should probably be listed separately). Although the colonies were under British control, I feel that it would be easier to find colonial currency under US currency, as today we think of the colonies not as individual colonies but as states of a union.

Cita: "BCNumismatics"​

Cita: "ChrisK197"​Edit: I just found the 4 dollar Continental note on Numista under pre-federal US currency. However, I still see a few problems with this.
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​​1. it doesn't show up under the general US catalog; it only shows up when you press "pre-federal" on the browse Banknotes page (unlike notes from the Republic of Texas, which show
​​up in the general US catalog as well as its own catalog)
​​2. there is a relatively limited description without a reference catalog cited (or maybe I just didn't see it on mobile idk)
​​3. The only pre-federal notes listed are the 1775 4 dollar note and a 1/6 of a dollar note.
​​4. It's listed as "United States › United States - Pre-Federal • Unspecified currency" - I think "unspecified currency" should be replaced with "Continental Dollar".
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​​I could probably try to enter other pre-federal notes on my own time, I just think the website should modify the description of the issuing authority to make it clearer, as well as have it show up on the General US banknote page. If I missed anything or was incorrect on any of the things I listed here, let me know.
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​British America should be added to the listings as well - as these were issued when America was still under British rule, even though the American Revolution was well underway.
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​Aidan.

​Yes, perhaps "British America" would be a good heading for colonial currency. I think it would be easier to have British America to be a sub-heading (like what the Republic of Texas is now), and then maybe list the 13 colonies (and perhaps the Continental Congress) as sub-sub headings (like what the Confederacy is now). Or just put all of the colonies together, that would work too.

The USA at the earliest was established in 1776 “League of Free and Independent States”, one could argue only after the Treaty of Paris in 1783 when it was recognised and others say even later only after the War of 1812 as that was the moment of full political independence. But this is I think less relevant.

At least everything before 1776 should not be listed under the name United states of America be it coins or bills.

Cita: "Idolenz"​The USA at the earliest was established in 1776 “League of Free and Independent States”, one could argue only after the Treaty of Paris in 1783 when it was recognised and others say even later only after the War of 1812 as that was the moment of full political independence. But this is I think less relevant.
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​At least everything before 1776 should not be listed under the name United states of America be it coins or bills.
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​Fair point. However, even if it isn't labeled as "American" currency, it should still be under the general US currency section of the catalog. British India is listed under India, Belgian Congo is listed under Congo, etc. This isn't true for every colonized nation, but I think it would
be useful for America, since we have a lot of banknotes compared to other colonies and most popular auction sites (like Heritage or even EBay) list it as "Early American Currency". After all, pre-federal is already a small subcategory for US currency. Although I would agree, the currency in question isn't "United States" currency, per se (although I would argue that anything from 1774-1775 isn't British either).

Cita: "Idolenz"​The USA at the earliest was established in 1776 “League of Free and Independent States”, one could argue only after the Treaty of Paris in 1783 when it was recognised and others say even later only after the War of 1812 as that was the moment of full political independence. But this is I think less relevant.
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​At least everything before 1776 should not be listed under the name United states of America be it coins or bills.
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Only those dated prior to 4 July 1776 should be listed as British American, as some of the individual colonies themselves issued notes in 1776, even including references to King George III's reign & Coats-of-Arms surmounted with the King's Crown.

Aidan.

Is there still something needed here?